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  Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules

  by Tameria2001 in

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  https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.

  i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.

  it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.

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  There's no way DS isn't going to get disfellowshipped if his real identity is shared with the JW WT lawyers. Hopefully, he used means to cover his tracks so that no one knows his identity. Of course, that is the chance that those who provide leaked information take. There are ways that they can get the information to the local congregation. You can literally be disfellowshipped for anything the elders want. It's their rules, their club, they can do whatever they feel like to kick someone out.
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  What we did when attending a dry JW wedding reception.

  by smiddy3 in

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  many years ago when the wife and i were still active we attended a friends wedding reception at a top class licensed restaurant in the cbd ,we were close friends with the bride and her family .apparently the grooms parents decided it was going to be a dry reception with no alcohol to be served.. as i said we were close friends with the brides parents an elder & " elderette" and they certainly liked a drink or two or three etc.. i asked the bartender for a drink for my wife & myself and was told it was a dry session & no alcohol was to be served as the grooms father was putting the bill.. so i said to the bartender i am quite happy to pay my own way for the drinks regardless ,so i got served while everybody else had to sit through a dry session.. and these were well off people trying to make a statement .. bloody wowsers..

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  I've attended lots of dry weddings where I live. I always came prepared with a flask and a backup in the car!
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

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  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  The WT has to be the most reactionary organization in existence. I used to think they would make these decisions in a well thought out and business like manner but the decisions over the last couple of decades beginning with the decision to quit charging for the literature shows very little forethought.

  Honestly, in the first world native speaking congregations, growth is almost all from born-ins or at the very least, individuals that have some connection to JWs (family mostly). The only real growth they are experiencing in first world countries is via the foreign language groups. And surely that's going to be decimated given they now don't have real territories any longer.

  So, I'm not sure its going to have a huge impact for the time being. The biggest impact I see is a diminishing of the "importance" of the ministry. Shifting from trying to start studies (unsuccessfully in most cases but that's actually not the point) to just distributing literature or preaching is going to have an impact psychologically lowering zeal. It's already lower across the organization from my observations than it was say 20 years ago.

  They've hinted for years that at some point they will switch to a message of doom or whatever phrase they were using. That's exactly what they should do for now. At least get the troops fired up for a short period of time until you can come up with some other BS.

  I believe the GB totally buys into their own BS and they are counting on Armageddon coming to bail them out. May as well double down on that theory with a message of doom. You could also have a message of doom for a few years and then come up with a whole Jonah story whereby Jehovah decides to call off Armageddon due to the repentance of the world because of the JW preaching. Then, switch to a more mainstream religion. LOL
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  I sent in my letter - peace I’m out

  by HiddenPimo in

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  da haters need not apply - thanks for your support.

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  Jared,

  Congratulations on taking the course that you feel best about! I love DOCs quote. Often the WTS wants to paint people that leave as being miserable when usually the opposite is true.

  I'm sure you've braced for the inevitable blow back.
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  Should Hand Held Cellphones Be Banned While Driving?

  by minimus in

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  many states do not even allow you to hold your phone if you are driving.

  do you think you should be fined hundreds of dollars for touching your phone while driving?

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  If you are going to have rules surrounding driving (speed limits, stopping at red lights) then it would make sense to address other actions that can cause harm to others such as being on the cell while driving.

  While I'm against rules that don't impact others such as helmets for cyclists and seat beats, I'm all for reducing the number of reckless folks on the road.

  Incidentally, I'm not against using safety devices and would use them with or without a law. Just don't think the law should force you to do things for "your own good". If you don't want to wear a seat belt and get killed as a result, that's on you.
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  Especially elders...

  by stillin in

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  i was wondering how many of you that are ex-elders have actually read any da letters.

  or did you just accept the synopsis given by the secretary or whoever opens the mail?

  as an ms the closest i ever got was "he's an apostate.

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  In my limited experience (10 years) I actually never had anyone DA
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  2019 BOE Elders letter May 13 England - Ireland Data Protection

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://tinyurl.com/y2bzncu9.

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  I think in the case of do not calls, since the householder is specifically making the request not to call again, that would give permission to make note of at least the address. Otherwise, how would they be able to avoid the house?

  Agree this will be a major change in how JWs conduct FS. Without the ability to take notes on RVs, I just don't see how you could effectively conduct one.
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  How many would leave the organization right now if the shunning rule was removed?

  by HiddenPimo in

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  additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.

  csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).

  would those leaving be higher?.

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  There would always be a portion that would shun whether it's official policy or not. Especially those who have spent their entire lives with that mindset. Over time, there would be a general relaxing which would lead more people to feel free to walk away. I'm PIMO and would walk away if I thought my family wouldn't shun me. Honestly, I'm pretty sure that most of them would not. My MIL definitely would which would bother my wife.

  Immediately, I'm not sure it would even be 10% because the practice of shunning is so ingrained.
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  My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first post.

  i am physically in and mentally out.

  well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

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  Welcome! Looking forward to hearing more from you. Hopefully your wife will come along with you. Just don't overshare all at once. Drip pieces of information slowly.
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  Preparing the sheeple for finally abandoning the significance of 1914

  by under the radar in

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  2. beliefs

  we all know the society would love to get rid of all the problems caused by clinging to 1914 and all they claimed it meant for the last 100+ years.. it looks like they are laying the groundwork for easing away from the whole concept of 1914. this would also let them do away with the ridiculous "overlapping generation" bullcrap.

  what a diaper load that has been.... anyway, the following is from their super secret marching orders for april, 2019. draw your own conclusions.... "3.

  “100 years of faithfulness”: the coordinator of the body of elders, or another elder, should be invited to read the following special announcement.

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  Doubting Bro

  thetruelie,

  Welcome to the forum! Look forward to your contributions